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According to Mary J Foley at Microsoft watch. Ironically, as I read her page, what should appear at the top but a Domino 7 ad:



Which does rather make me laugh out loud. MS keep claiming that Notes is dead, etc. But the last shipped version of Exchange 2003 - is just up to service pack 2. And the next version - "12" - wont be till 2007 (at least, IMHO). Thats FOUR years.

They *must* be packing huge amounts of features in, right ? Ah. No. It'll be 64-bit ONLY. (The same author goes on in another article to say that Exchange Server Standby clusters are only just getting decent support).

Ironically, there's a MS Exchange 2003 "unplugged" tour going on right now, encouraging folks to unplug their ageing Exchange 5.5 servers -something I heartily agree with. There's gotta be a few of them for MS to commit 6 heavy-hitters to a roadshow like this.

Of course, I wouldnt ask the customers to "upgrade" to Exchange 2003 - surely they've suffered enough ?

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Gravatar Image1 - Classic, I got an IBM Rational banner ad!

Gravatar Image2 - Based on our experience, it's impossible to 'upgrade' an Exchange 5.5 server. In the last few years we've gone from 5.5 to 2000 and now to 2003, and in each case we had to set up brand new Exchange servers and migrate users from the old box to the new. In the 5.5 --> 2000 process, our people worked in our labs for months with direct support from MS (they're 10 minutes from our offices) and could not get it to work.

Gravatar Image3 - Interesting - when I went to the page I got a Tivoli banner ad at the top and a WebSphere ad down the right hand side.

Gravatar Image4 - I got lot's of blank spaces, as the ads all get blocked by our content filtering system! I just wish Firefox did not pop every time an ad is blocked, with "The document contains no data"

Gravatar Image5 - @2. Jeez.

Compare and contrast.

Upgrade Domino: Install code over top of old code, run compact, start server.

Downgrade Domino: Install old code over top of new code, run compact, start server.

Move server onto new hardware: Copy data to new box, install domino over top, change DNS entry, run compact and start server. Oh - and that includes moving between platforms and versions too!

Cluster server: One operation in address book, 10 minutes later (all whilst servers are alive, of course!), start replicating databases across using admin tool. Have coffee. Servers replicated.

I dont envy you.

---* Bill

Gravatar Image6 - @5
Bill,

Why run compact?

Leave the server running for a short while and make sure you're happy with the code in a production environment. Because test platforms, as we all know, have an uncanny knack of deviating from the live environment. And there are soem things which are difficult to test anyway - like how the SMTP task will behave under real-life load. Getting real life load in a test environment for that one is a pain, believe me.

I'd upgrade, leave the server running, then run compact once I'm happy the server is working fine. It's not like we don't have backwards compatibility...

And not running compact makes rollback easier. Turn off any transaction logging and restart a couple of times until it's truly gone. Uninstall the current version, re-install the old version, copy your Dbs back into place. No data loss whatsoever... That can be a lifesaver.

But hey, I'm nitpicking. I've done it your way plenty of times too, and it works just as well either way... It depends on how cautious you want to be.

Phil

Gravatar Image7 - Phil - there's lots of safety things you can do. A "proper" consultant like me would give you a two-page checklist.

Fundamentally - thats how to do it.

No russian roulette with registries, active pain with active directory or excrutiating Exchange excrement. (You knew I couldnt keep that alliteration going, didnt you?)

---* Bill


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