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the "Windows Genuine Advantage" servers are DOWN. DONT reboot your machines..

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"Windows Genuine Advantage" is the lovely bit of spyware that runs on XP and Vista (and is downloaded and installed as a fix). So far so good.

However, it looks like the server farm at the Microsoft end of this particular piece of nonsense is down, and anyone who's PC reboots and dials in has their copy of windows marked as counterfeit. Which means "reduced functionality mode". Or more likely, their machine crashing and their data lost, given the programming prowess demonstrated by Redmond this millenia.

Class. Microsoft implement a horrible, 1980's style spyware sniffer which relies on their servers delivering accurate results - but they cant keep their servers running. So the "normal" user gets penalised. Whist anyone out there who actually wanted to steal XP or Vista (and god knows why they'd want to do that) presumably has WGA switched off or hacked out in the first place.

So the only people actually being checked, and now thanks to their inept operations - penalised - are the very low-tech users who have paid MS (usually via the likes of Dell).

I mean, you cant make up this kind of stupidity..

I'd love to think that MS will learn from this, switch off or desensitise their WGA and stop hurting the very people who buy their product. But given that Steve "Mr Chair" Ballmer is still in charge, I know there's a snowballs chance on hell of this.

MS Dont realise that the desktop OS market is theirs to lose. And its actions like this (or Vista, or lack of investment in Explorer, or buggy automatic updates that screw your machine) that will drive people to their local apple mac store, or to the fedora/ubuntu/suse web sites..

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Gravatar Image1 - Bill, WGA is not to prevent people from stealing. It's meant to find the users who bought Windows but they bought an illegal version. Lots of shops copy versions and make money on it while the consumers think they paid for a valid version.

Gravatar Image2 - Matthijs, I'll never buy that particular bit of marketing. Microsoft sent me a free copy of Office 2003 Professional. Hologram CD's and the whole bit. It came with a "thanks for being a MCSD" notecard. I installed it. Everything was fine for a year, until I upgraded my CPU. The first time I fired up Excel it wanted to reauthorize my copy of Office. Umm.... why? I had the CPU serial number turned off previously, and turned it off on the new one before I booted Windows the first time, so Office shouldn't have had any clue that I changed CPU's. Even if it did, it's still the same install of Windows XP.

Anyway, it couldn't verify my license via the Internet so I had to call some phone number, type in a 20 character code TWICE, then repeat the same code TWICE to the MS rep, all just so I can use Excel. And there was a huge language barrier between me and the MS rep. His English was almost as bad as my Hindi. A couple of weeks later I upgraded my memory and started the process over again.

You can't tell me this is for my own protection when I got my software DIRECTLY FROM MICROSOFT. It's some effort at control, but it's not one I even pretend to understand.

Gravatar Image3 - Matthijs, if thats the case, why does it repeatedly check ? Surely the users windows license doesnt change at every login ?

Perhaps I wasnt being clear in my original posting. I have no issue with software vendors ensuring that their licenses are paid for - I'm a software vendor too.

What I do have an issue with is such a badly designed one that paying licensed users - people who are paying your mortgage - appear to be the only people who suffer when someone within MS cant run the WGA servers properly..

---* Bill

Gravatar Image4 - @charles, I was talking about WGA, the problem you describe (although anoying) is something else

@Bill, what happened in the past is that certain volume license keys were used. When that is discoverd these are added to the check. So checks in the future will help discover those installs. I don't say i agree with these things, just how they work and why they exist. WGA problems this weekend showd how vulnerable this kind of systems could be if implemented badly (or at all)

Gravatar Image5 - All the more reason to start using the "office productivity tools" Emoticon

Gravatar Image6 - Well, the increasingly unreliable code from MS has driven me to decide that my next laptop will be a macbook (pro).

In other words, I no longer feel that basing my business on a laptop powered by XP or Vista is reliable enough. Especially Vista - I did suffer through two months of that pain, and removed it when it decided to continually move my home directory back to a full hard drive and losing my data.

So my primary OS will be OS/X - a nice stable, secure BSD-based OS, and if/when I need windows, it'll be parallels and/or vmware.

Should hell freeze over and Vista improve to the state that its actually usable, then I have the option of running Vista as a primary O/S. However, I can only see the macbook pro lasting three years, and even I'm not that optimistic.

Now before you write me off as an avid Redmond hater - consider I've been in IT since 1985, been an IT services manager spending millions of quid a year, and consulting for the last 12 years.

Is this a hasty decision ? No. Its one I've been *forced* into.

When and why are you switching? If not, what are you doing to ensure that your business doesnt suffer?

---* Bill

Gravatar Image7 - Of COURSE you can make this stupidity up! Didn't you ever see "Dr. Strangelove?" Or watch Monty Python back in the Seventies? MS has become the digital version of the Ministry of Silly Walks.

Gravatar Image8 - And when you pick up one of the new MacBook Pros, welcome. You, too, can enjoy the bliss I, Nora, Bruce and Gayle Elgort, and a bunch of other Sphereians have enjoyed for several years.

Gravatar Image9 - Trackback for you.

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Gravatar Image10 - I have to say that since switching to an iMac and OS X the only thing that crashes on it is the Windows OS installed within Parallels - fortunately a virtual machine and therefore even with MS breaking it I have snapshots to return too !!

Gravatar Image11 - I am running my business on Ubuntu currently, with some of the Rails development happening on OS X while running on an "ancient" eMac. The only Windows installation in my household is there purely for my wife. No other reason, and the minute I'm able to switch her over, that's going too. I'm sick and tired of MS screwups.

Gravatar Image12 - MS's servers crashed heh? I bet that wouldn't happen if they ran a reliable OS... Emoticon

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